Civilisation, the thin veneer of morality which covers all of us, is very fragile. When everything is going well it makes us follow the rules and gives us guidance on what is right or wrong. We know what is the right thing to do and so we tend to follow our morals then we follow the laws although sometimes our man made laws make no sense to us.
But it is very thin. The slightest excuse and it is gone.
Being civilised is not an in built mechanism for us. We are basically animals and when the veneer cracks we will quickly return to animal ways, our base instincts will come to the fore. It is basically the fact that we have lived in a civilised society backed by laws and policed by others that we do what we know is right and the power to back those rules we don’t believe in that makes sure we do not stray from the rest. It protects the weak and ensures that we are just in our dealings. It helps that most of the rules that were put in place over decades were fair and just. We are happy to follow them. More recent rules are less so and thus we are slowly losing all respect for them. The problem with this is that once you start breaking the laws, and not suffering the punishments we think we deserve, we then consider ourselves as law breakers and the other laws, the ones we should be following, are also treated with contempt and we start breaking them as well. Once you have crossed the line then it is easier to do so again. It’s the opposite of the Health and Safety mantra. They look at each area and say we can make this safer. They are right but it comes with a big cost, both financially and on freedom. Law breaking is the same; break a little law then next time a slightly bigger law and so on. Very few jump directly to murders without passing through things like bullying, torture and killing of animals without cause.
If this recession bites really deep and people are put in the situation where the law conflicts with what they need to do to survive. People will adapt to the environment and fall back on their base instincts. Criminals will be running free and with no plod to stop them they will be seen as getting away with it so the choices are stay as a permanent victim, join in on the other side of the law or take the law into your own hands and pass out your own justice. All three choices will be taken by currently law abiding people as their situations chance depending on the circumstances for each of them and each will have made the right choice in their views.
Now there is a sliding scale for everyone on everything. All things being equal we generally conform to the law but if the circumstances are right you won’t. Would you kill a man you didn’t know in the street because he swore at you? Of course you wouldn’t. Now imagine that you were in your home and that same someone had just killed your pet and was heading towards the children. How about now? The line is different for everyone and shifts depending on circumstances.
Our morals are more fragile than we like to think about and are already starting to fracture.
Many laws we have introduced over the last few decades are not seen by all as good things. Three good examples are laws on racism, feminism and paedophilia. There are many more I could have chosen. All these introduced for a reason and all fully justifiable, even in our own minds, so we have difficulty disagreeing. We pride ourselves as having progressed where in fact we have not progressed much since we left the caves in these regards. It is all surface coating or lip service to the law.
Take racism. All men are seen to be equal regardless of colour. That should be true and people should be treated as if skin colour does not matter. In many cases that is the case now but it is not in our nature and those who wish to discriminate will always manage to do it. In the meantime when people are given preferential treatment the true racism is made apparent and a disgruntled citizen is created. Maybe not a racist before but certainly having a bias now. The problem nowadays is that racism is used as a reason from someone not getting something they want when many other factors are at work. Don’t get the job you wanted it was because they are racist. Never mind that there were 500 people applying for it and 100 of those were better qualified. Didn’t leave school with any qualifications. It was because the teachers were racist. Never mind the fact you were never there and had no interest in paying attention when you were. Employers want the best person for the job and it is not in their interests to discriminate. Only exception is Public Sector who mainly look at ticking equality boxes and we all complain at their performance. I would suggest that racism is worse now than it was 15 years ago and little of that is the fault of the people.
Feminism is similar because men and women are to be treated as equals. Again that should be true but nature conspires against us. We are not alike. We don’t even think alike, have the same mentality and the women are less risk takers. They are the ones who carry children and almost every society on Earth considers them the child rearer and the man the bread winner and this is even used in a court of law. Feminism as we know it is dying. It’s outspoken critics no better than politicians. Men have learnt quickly and are leaving the outspoken ones on the shelf. For basic sex many are turning to prostitutes and get the sex without the nagging and hand in the wallet. That is why they are trying desperately to criminalise men who ‘victimise’ prostitutes. They are starting to find they are past middle age and been left on the shelf with no marriage and no children. How can the propagate their message? It’s laughable really. They hate men but in doing so they make men hate them and pay the price in love and marriage by destroying marriage as a union. Although most of us could care less about women’s rights we will all remember the campaigns to make all men rapists and to criminalise us for political gain.
Finally paedophilia. Someone decided an arbitrary age and it is illegal to have sex below that. Of course it is different around the world and also difficult to tell age. The real issue is youth is seen as fertile and young people are seen as innocent. Many people and cultures prize that. The sliding scale means that even at the extreme ends, babies, some real nutters see them as sexually attractive although it’s in our nature to look for the fertile young ones. There will always be those at the extremes in anything with groups of people in. Never mind the porn just look at our newspapers. Nobody has any page 3 grannies. It’s all 18 to 20 year olds, younger if they can find a good reason and as it sells papers we all guzzle it up. We all like looking at young things. Remember Charlotte Church when she was only 13 or 14? How people commented on her body. Men like to be around young women no matter how old they are themselves. Nature made women fertile long before they matured mentally. Not man. I wonder if this was an evolutionary step because if it was the other way around the species would have died out with all the feminists saying ‘No, I have a headache’. I would envisage that when plod stops coming around one of the first things we will find returning is child brides and mistresses. It seems like it happens now more than ever despite all our laws.
This short list is just as examples. You can add many more I’m sure and each will have a legitimate argument that the course taken is right but we have gone too far in them all and restricted people freedoms, taken their jobs and destroyed lives in these campaign yet it will be to no avail. This has lead to many having legitimate complains against society in general. That’s you and me btw. If I criticise a black person I am racist even if that criticism is true and fair, a woman I call a feminist makes me a misogynist and sexist but she can imply I am a rapist because all men are dirty and only interested in one thing without censure and if I object to not being allowed to photograph my kids on sports day I’m a paedophile. We are all too scared to speak out about these because to come to the attention of plod or social services is not good nowadays, not that it ever was, but nowadays in our KGB style world it has a special meaning.
So now we are falling headlong into a recession and it is not looking good. The Government is stuck in a hole of its own making and soon it will not be able to make ends meet. People are extremely unhappy about the governments handling of the issue and even ardent Labour supporters know where to point the finger (finally) although our sliding scale works here as well and many think they are still good for the country despite the facts.
We just have to hope that the situation does not deteriorate too far because it can get ugly as our base instincts will start to come to the fore. They are doing so already as initially we get selfish then violent. As it gets worse more people will have to make some uncomfortable choices. Regardless of whether there are riots or not and they invoke the anti democracy laws they have rolled out there will be many places in the UK that Plod or the Army just won’t go if it gets violent. There just are not enough of them and they will just contain it and let it burn itself out. It seems like the IRA are back as well and you know how difficult it was for the Army and Plod to deal with them. When we are all at it think how long our pitifully few Military and Plod will last with no resting place. Ordinary people are disarmed and will therefore be unable to do anything about it and life will be very untenable in those areas so best start making nice to the bad guys or at the very least don’t antagonise them. You will need them for their contacts.
I pity, but not for long, all the little despots, usually powerless unless backed up by laws enforced by plod, who will suddenly find their victims will suddenly remember that they were the ones that blocked their planning application for an extension, that they stole equipment from the shed and reported the out of date tax disk to plod. Most people here already know where our MP lives so trying to hide will be a waste of time. Revenge is sweet and best served cold.
I do feel sorry for all the Pakistanis etc. who have been here 40 odd years. Have brought their kids up right, never claimed a penny from the state, kept themselves to themselves and paid their taxes as they get persecuted for all the recently arrived layabouts and wanna be terrorists. As a group they may be better armed than us but there are just not enough of them to overrun us at the moment. I bet many will leave for other countries and in some cases that will be a loss for us and a culture shock for them. Kids born here from parents born here but not seen as British. That isn’t right but what is in turbulent times.
The rest of it will revert, women will lose their positions and men will assert theirs. Marriage will come back on to the agenda. Children will lose their innocence and we will start the cycle again. Perhaps next time we come around equality in all ways will be part of who we are and not require legislation but it’s been unequal for thousands of years so somehow I just don’t see it ever changing.
Base instincts. Human nature. Not quite built into the genes but the next level up
Now think forward as many years as you think it will take for us to conquer the stars. Imagine our initial little outposts on far flung planets. We are talking about the Wild West type pioneers here. Going out with our wagons to hostile new environments and turning it into a home. Do you really think they will keep all the laws we have put in place today? Can you really see a mixed community with people of different races and religions? People will gravitate towards what they know and are comfortable with. Baptists will go out with other Baptists etc. They won’t want any religious upsets because it will be bad enough without them. Would you want to be part of a community with ardent feminists in? I think I’ll go out with the Baptists instead myself. It will be teams, communities and social groups that go out to make a better life for themselves and they will pick their team members with care to ensure as little friction as possible. Oh dear. It’ll be back to what we are comfortable with and with no PC box ticking of personality types to ensure we get a nice PC mix. They will be trying to make sure that they are given the best chance at succeeding.
Unless we can get near instantaneous travel between our colonies then they will instantly become separate communities who make their own laws, their own customs and look upon outsiders with suspicion. Then instead of the UK, USA, China etc. all doing their own thing we will have New Britain, New USA and New China on separate planets all with their own culture and laws. Many will be lawless as people spread out over planets to make their own communities.
I wonder how long it will take for some to declare independence and then for some to go to war. We after all will be taking our base instincts with us.
In the old days, when life expectancy was 35 women of 13 & 14 did get married the moment they were fertile because they had less yrs to bear and raise children. As life expectancy was similar for men, it was not 50 yr old men who were her sexul partners. With the invention of life saving drugs, better nutrition, etc our life expectancy doubled. With the poisonous chemical we all digest ,it’s reaked avoc on teen hormones ,making women fertile at 8+1 & 10.Those two examples are NOT nature or biology at play. It’s artifically created.
Women come into their sexual prime at about 30-and despite what most people erroneously believe- she never leaves it. Would you be less judgemental if a 45 yr old was having a relationship with your son -both perfect matches-from a sexual prime perspective- as you are with old farts/pre -teens?
Yes, feminism can go too far, and their backlash about genuine and rife misogyny creates more. Howeveree, the initial misogyny is there- and any women who objects to it is NOT a man hating, jealous of younger women feminist.
Don;t you middle aged crotches get it-that by middle aged most women,except the most insecure, the kind whose whole esteem is built and dashed on how many men desire them, have long got over their boy mad phase. And with good cause.
So!!! Women who object to old sods exploiting young ,vulnerble girls are NOT jealous that the pig’s attention has wandered to the teens-she likely wouldn’t have anything to do with him ,either.
It’s in womens’ nature to protect the young nad vulnerable in society and in men’s to exploit. But men would try to turn it into some sad, ulterior motive for women based on them being ‘past it’,which shows that men are the ones wo treat women as sexual objects,with this youth obsessed culture being their instigation.
What about old men with bag rot? Funny how, they are not so critical about their own aging issues!
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I’m not disagreeing why women started young but there was an original reason and it’s now one of our instincts. Being fertile at 8 or 9 may be because of the environment we are in but you miss the point. Kids were getting married back in the olden olden days at 9. Look at Mohammed. Not many modern chemicals around in his days.
Regarding the misogyny I have not said that anyone who objects to it is a man hating, jealous of younger women feminist in my post nor have I said that women object to men chasing younger women are ‘past it’ or jealous in any way. Read the post again. It is about our base instincts and how we still have them hidden away, although in some cases the veneer is so thin that these instincts are clearly visible.
I agree with you that one of woman’s base instincts is to protect the young and vulnerable. If it wasn’t for that we would probably have been wiped out millennia ago.
Bag rot? Men aging? What has that got to do with base instincts?
Yes, you did……
‘Feminism as we know it is dying. It’s outspoken critics no better than politicians. Men have learnt quickly and are leaving the outspoken ones on the shelf. For basic sex many are turning to prostitutes and get the sex without the nagging and hand in the wallet. That is why they are trying desperately to criminalise men who ‘victimise’ prostitutes. They are starting to find they are past middle age and been left on the shelf with no marriage and no children. How can the propagate their message? It’s laughable really. They hate men but in doing so they make men hate them and pay the price in love and marriage by destroying marriage as a union. Although most of us could care less about women’s rights we will all remember the campaigns to make all men rapists and to criminalise us for political gain.
Finally paedophilia. Someone decided an arbitrary age and it is illegal to have sex below that. Of course it is different around the world and also difficult to tell age. The real issue is youth is seen as fertile and young people are seen as innocent. Many people and cultures prize that. The sliding scale means that even at the extreme ends, babies, some real nutters see them as sexually attractive although it’s in our nature to look for the fertile young ones. There will always be those at the extremes in anything with groups of people in. Never mind the porn just look at our newspapers. Nobody has any page 3 grannies. It’s all 18 to 20 year olds, younger if they can find a good reason and as it sells papers we all guzzle it up. We all like looking at young things. Remember Charlotte Church when she was only 13 or 14? How people commented on her body. Men like to be around young women no matter how old they are themselves. Nature made women fertile long before they matured mentally. Not man. I wonder if this was an evolutionary step because if it was the other way around the species would have died out with all the feminists saying ‘No, I have a headache’. I would envisage that when plod stops coming around one of the first things we will find returning is child brides and mistresses. It seems like it happens now more than ever despite all our laws.
This short list is just as examples. You can add many more I’m sure and each will have a legitimate argument that the course taken is right but we have gone too far in them all and restricted people freedoms, taken their jobs and destroyed lives in these campaign yet it will be to no avail. This has lead to many having legitimate complains against society in general. That’s you and me btw. If I criticise a black person I am racist even if that criticism is true and fair, a woman I call a feminist makes me a misogynist and sexist but she can imply I am a rapist because all men are dirty and only interested in one thing ….’
Well quoted. I still don’t see it. It’s all a comment on how we are. My understanding of facts. Your comments don’t change that.
“People will gravitate towards what they know and are comfortable with.”
Absolutely true.
“…the initial misogyny is there- and any women who objects to it is NOT a man hating, jealous of younger women feminist.”
Ha! ha! So-called “radical” feminists are nothing more than white man, hating witches! That is their reason for being involved with so-called feminism. Those weatered hags invented it. No! Tell a lie, they didnt invent it but they sure did spread it what with all their white man-hater stereotyping and hatred.
Anyway, I thought you lot didn’t like stereotyping. “The initial misogyny is there”? What does that say about your views? All men are evil? That makes you a bigot.
The fact is a lot of wimmin see the advantages of blaming men, especially white men, for THEIR own messed-up decisions. 1)”Oh, if only my daddy hadn’t slapped me i’d be different now”, 2)”I wouldn’t be sleeping with everyone if it wasn’t for my daddy”, 3)”oh i’m only spending all this money on the credit card because my husband refuses to see my point of view”.
Whatever! 1)there is nothing wrong with being taught right from wrong 2)Sleeping around? Hmmm? People cannot claim to be sleeping around because so and so did something to them twenty years ago. It is a conscious choice. 3)Spoilt behaviour is spoilt behaviour. It is a choice. Nobody makes anyone act like a brat. People choose to act that way. Damn! One girl I knew straight out told me that she deliberately lied to her own father because he would not approve of her behaviour. She had no respect for him whatsoever. That was because he didn’t wear any of her bullshit. That was because she had been force fed this evil doctrine from a young age, not by her father and mother but by the so-called school system. School system? Ha! ha! That’s just another name for deliberate indoctrination by the so-called powers that be.
Oh yeah, and she declared herself a “feminist”. Yeah, a feminist when it suited her more like it. She didnt believe in feminism. She wouldn’t have been prostituting herself to me if she had.
“Don;t you middle aged crotches get it-that by middle aged most women,except the most insecure, the kind whose whole esteem is built and dashed on how many men desire them, have long got over their boy mad phase. And with good cause.
So!!! Women who object to old sods exploiting young ,vulnerble girls are NOT jealous that the pig’s attention has wandered to the teens-she likely wouldn’t have anything to do with him ,either.”
“Middle aged crotches”? Hmmm, I could say something like, what’s it like having to hide behind the facade of so-called feminism when all you really want to do is lead all wimmin to saphoburg, but I won’t. What is it like having to make out you tolerate men when you really hate men? I s’pose I could label you a fake, but I don’t think that fits. You are more than fake, you’re a joke.
I think you feminazis are hilarious. You try to hide your man hating thoughts but they always surface in comments like, “Don;t you middle aged crotches get it?” That is why feminism is hated. It is not because all men are women haters; it’s because we can see through the very, very thin veneer. We can see that you hate us but havent got the balls to come out and state it.
Another thing that makes me laugh is the fact that you claim to hate extremists. You radfems, as you like to call yourself, are just as extreme as any other extremists.
“It’s in womens’ nature to protect the young [and] vulnerable in society and in men’s to exploit.”
“Women’s nature”? Do you have the proof to back this statement or are you just ranting ‘cos you’re on the blob? Where is your proven evidence that “women’s nature” (whatever that is) leads ALL women to “protect the young and vulnerable in society”? You have no evidence to prove this statement ‘cos there is none.
[it is] in men’s [nature] to exploit [the young and vulnerable in society”?
Is it really? Again, where is your proof? Are you sure you’re not just having a bad hair day? Maybe you should go to the mall and buy those clothes you’ve been dying to get. No! Maybe you can go eat something to make yourself feel better.
Yeah bollocks to that. You’ve probably already eaten far too much already.
Awwwwww, are you mad? Mad that i’m stereotyping. I know what that feels like.
“What about old men with bag rot? Funny how, they are not so critical about their own aging issues!”
“Old men”?, “bag rot”? Listen woman, you need to learn some manners. Your daddy didn’t tan your hide enough it seems.
Talking of “aging issues” I want to know why men cannot have regular check-ups for testicular cancer and/or prostate cancer!
Wimmin’s health is not more important than men’s health. How come you’re not whining about that particular inequality?
I could go and on, but I really have better things to do than waste my time on feminazi oxygen thieves.
“With the invention of life saving drugs, better nutrition, etc our life expectancy doubled. With the poisonous chemical we all digest ,it’s reaked avoc on teen hormones ,making women fertile at 8+1 & 10.Those two examples are NOT nature or biology at play. It’s artifically created.”
“…Invention of life saving drugs”? What are you talking about? Humans never invented Digitalis, Epinephrine Hydrochloride (Adrenaline), Kava, Rhubarb, Gingko Biloba, Valerian, Mint, Ginseng, and Aspirin. They are all natural. I find you arrogant.
Besides that, life expectancy altered because people had better (environmental) health habits, i.e. they did not throw their own faeces onto the street any longer, they didn’t live in hovels any longer, and they set up clean drinking water supplies for themselves; it was not because of the “invention of life saving drugs”.
“avoc” (?) has been “reaked” on teen hormones because of synthetic chemicals. These were deliberately released into the environment via plastic, this, that and the other utensils, plastic bottles, and home cleaning liquids (clothes washing liquids, window cleaners and washing up liquids). We are now reaping the benefit of know-it-all scientists wonder inventions…not!
Females are all different and progress to puberty at different rates. I know someone who had her first period aged nine; then again, I know a female who had her first period at almost 14. You cannot generalise like you are. People are affected by many different things at different times and react according to their own particular chemistry and idiosyncrasies. We are all unique.
N.B.
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It is recognized that rhubarb not only exercises a digestive action but it operates directly as a conveyer of bile salts. It can therefore be classed as a hepatic stimulant. Rhubarb performs its first digestive operation in the mouth by stimulating the taste buds with its pleasantly bitter flavor which gives a sense of cleansing out the oral cavity, preparing it to taste the coming food. When it reaches the stomach its digestive effects come into full play, causing an increase of the flow of gastric juice and inducing their movement, thus favoring the processing of the contents of the stomach. Besides stimulating the secretions from the liver which convey the bile salts, it assists the intestine in regulating the absorption of fats.
Have some of my comments been removed from this post?
I think they have.
And who is this arsehole?
“…who is this arsehole?” Ah success!
You know, there is nothing more satisfying than watching an enemy all apart before your very eyes. Now, go forth and multiply. That’s if you can find anyone mad enough to hump you!
It is plain that the war between the sexes will never be won, because there’s too much fraternizing with the enemy. But not enough friendship to have families.
James,
Yes. Most of us are traitors to our sex. Only the die hard feminazis and gays are true to their sex. Sadly for them they don’t seem to propogate too well without government intervention.
Myself, I’ll settle for being a spy in their midst. Trying to gather information that, when the time is right, will come in useful. So far, several decades, and I don’t understand the first thing about them. But I’ll keep trying.
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This post is beyond awesome. I am always wondering what to do and what not to do so I will follow some of these tips.
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You have gone into more depth than myself although, i think you will see what i mean.
regards
J.D.F
Janina,
I did go on a bit there but I think I made my point.
I agree, and have said so somewhere, about the 10 commandments being the basis for a civilised society. Of course we need a few more nowadays because we have moved on but nothing like the number we have in the UK now.
It’s a sad day when a species actually goes backwards. That is what is going on today and it makes me livid. Politicians are the scum of the earth.
The comments were definitely more entertaining. Can’t we all just accept that some men are pigs and some women are insecure “bigots”.
I thoroughly enjoyed the read.
Politicians are the scum of the earth but i’d like to see you do their job.
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